General Contractor's plumber: Is this correct?

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice, Tips & ' started by oldberkeley, Dec 28, 2013.

  1. oldberkeley

    oldberkeley New Member

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    I have a GC doing a small addition, bedroom and bath. His work is OK (just OK), but I'm just a bit worried about his plumber. I'm going to get the terminology wrong here, but I'll try.

    To the back left of the toilet flange, the cold water supply pipe coming up vertically from the crawl space: at first I thought it was just a rough-in, but it's been pressure tested, the top is threaded with a cap on it, the tile has been laid. It extends about three inches above the new tile and if nothing changes, it will be very visible.

    Is this pipe supposed to be copper?
  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    It COULD be copper, but it may also be brass, and if so, when he installs the valve he may put a "cover sleeve" over it, or install a shorter pipe which does NOT show.
  3. Caduceus

    Caduceus Master Plumber

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    Posting a picture would be best, but it also sounds as if there could be a brass lug-ell with screw tabs below the floor. The pipe coming through the floor may be a 3/8" steel test nipple with cap.
    During the trim, the plumber may remove the test nipple and install a cromed brass nipple and escutcheon then the valve.
  4. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    A threaded nipple that has been capped tends to be a temporary stubout.
    After the floor has been tiled, it can be changed when the plumber "trims out".
    It's more there for the tile setter to work around.
  5. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Coming up through the floor verses out of the wall is more common when that is an outside wall...if it were in the wall, it might freeze in some colder places.
  6. oldberkeley

    oldberkeley New Member

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    The floor is now tiled, the plumber is coming back tomorrow, I'm hoping that you're correct.

    Somewhat OT: During this whole addlition I've been biting my tongue as far as complaining about anything. I was a professional painter back in the 70's and early 80's before I got into real estate. I know very well how ignorant, overly picky, and completely unreasonable some consumers can be. I don't want to be one of those people. Also, I like the GC personally, he's a regular guy, he was recommended to me by mutual friends, so there's all that relationship crap going on. :)

    That said, I've been disappointed in some of the little things that many of the tradesmen on the job have done or have neglected to do. Plumbers, electricians, carpenters, masons, HVAC, you name it. A lot of very minor little technical things that are not at the level of sub-standard, but not really first class.

    I guess I'm sounding like the 65-year-old dinosaur that I am, but for goodness sakes don't guys even know that you don't use the customer's tools or equipment, you don't track mud all over the place, and you clean up your mess at the end of the day?

    Everything's passing inspection, the addition will be fine, all the work is OK: just OK. For $75K I guess I expected a bit more than that.
  7. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    I like to keep 4' x 12' runners in the trucks. And we sweep after the job is done.
    Sometimes we take our shoes off. My feet are a little big for the booties that some wear.
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