Drywallin'

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  1. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    I am taking a week off work next week to begin putting up the drywall in my basement. I have ordered lots of gizmos to help me with this. Any comments on any of them would be appreciated.

    Telpro TROLL Troll 300-Pound Capacity Panel Handler
    Shark 10-2206 Rockeater Drywall Saw
    Stanley 93-301 14-Inch Yellow Panel Carry Handle
    Senco 1R0004N DS200-AC Duraspin 3,300 RPM Collated Screwdriver
    Improtec Lift'n'Lock - Drywall, Plywood, Door Lifter and Support
    Pentagon Tool "Foot Lifter"--Two for the price of One!"
    Free Hands Drywall Support
    Duraspin #6 X 1-1/4" Drywall To Steel Screws

    Have I forgotten anything else that might be useful?
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    A six pack. :)
  3. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    Thanks Cookie. I always carry at least 6 beers in the fridge.

    Coming from Europe, I cannot get enough of this stuff:

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    It's quite a prestiguous beer there. My neighbors here though laugh at me for drinking it. They say it makes me look like a redneck!

    I still think it's the best beer this country has to offer though. Refreshing and yet tasty. Yum.
  4. GabeS

    GabeS Remodel Contractor

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    rasp to smooth out the rough edges after you cut.
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    beer

    Your picture reminds me of when the brewers had their convention. The heads of four breweries got together for a night out. When the waiter came for their orders, the Mexican said, "Give me a Corona, the best beer in Mexico". The next one said, "Give me a Coors brewed with pure Rocky Mountain spring water". The third said, "Give me a Busch, straight from the midwest". The fourth, the Guiness brewer, said, "Give me a Seven Up". The others asked why he wasn't ordering a brew. He told them, "As long as you boys aren't drinking beer, it would be impolite of me have a beer in front of you and order a Guiness".
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    Holy ring shank nail , Batman! You mean there is a better way than propping it up with your head and trying not to hit your thumb??
  7. I think if luck had it and I was told that I could live longer if I just did drywall work, I'd settle for a shorter life.


    It's a talent to all its own and no matter what I do, I get angry. And then there are people that make it look beautiful with feathering the joints and corners, bedding the tape so it is never seen again or has to be cut out and done over.



    (goes and smashes drywall in fit of rage, calls someone else to fix it)
  8. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    ANd here I thought all you needed was a couple of "T" supports, a screw gun, and a helper.
  9. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    This is just for the walls.

    For a ceiling, I will be using a suspended solution. But I'll think about that after the walls are done.
  10. iminaquagmire

    iminaquagmire DIY Senior Member

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    Ceiling first. It gets supported at the edges and it also makes it easier to place the drywall since you can maneuver it through the stud bays.
  11. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    YOu do realize, I suppose, that by the time you get, or rent, all that equipment, you could have hired someone to install it AND tape/texture it.
  12. FloridaOrange

    FloridaOrange Plumbing Designer

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    You'll like that gun, my brother has it or one just like it. He uses it for fence and deck work as well.
  13. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    Thanks everyone for the tips and FloridaOrange for the info on the gun.

    HJ, it's not about the money. It's the joy of the craft. I don't ask questions on this site to save a buck or two. I'd rather pay more to do the job myself and take satisfaction in it than pay a poor licensed contractor to take that happiness away from me.
  14. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    In that case, you are not a DIYer, you are a masochist. There is no way I would do something myself, IF it were cheaper to have a contractor do it. I might get some satisfaction from digging a few dozen holes tomorrow to plant trees and bushes, but I am perfectly willing to let the nursery have the enjoyment of doing it. Why not let him have the satisfaction of doing a good job?
  15. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    We all need a hobby Hj. What's yours?

    Personally, I cannot think of anything worse than moderating an internet forum. But each to their own.

    In the past I have actually paid plumbers to do work, and then told them to knock off early so I could finish the job.

    It must be the European "socialist" idealism in me...helping a stranger...enjoying the fruits of ones own labor...state-provided health care...

    I bought four access panels today. This seems a nice place to get them. http://www.accessdoorsdirect.com/

    That is the one thing I love most about America. There is no other country on this earth when you can say "Right I want an access panel for my drywall", go online and order it. You can buy anything here so easily.

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  16. hj

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    It is even nicer when I do not have to pay shipping and can go a couple of miles away and pick out whichever ones I want and take them home with me. The guy in the picture may be there to lay pipe, but I wonder what kind uses a Crescent wrench and a 1/2" rachet drive?
  17. FloridaOrange

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    Ian,
    Another note, if you have a helper you really don't need all the drywall support tools. My brother and I did quite a bit in his house and I think those things would've been in the way.
  18. Terry

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    The best way to learn drywall is to sit back and watch a pro do it.

    When I was building houses, one of the contractors gave me some lessons in it.
    It's all about bending the blades to put that fine taper where it meets the board.
    I just looked at some mudding work in a friend's home, it was looking pretty hack.

    The first coat goes on with the shorter blade,
    and then the next day you go with a longer blade.
    Most do two base coats, and then a topping coat with a long blade.
    There should be almost no sanding needed if you are bending the blades enough.

    For one day jobs, I hire a guy that uses 30 minute mud.
    He can hang, tape and texture in one day.
    But if you use the 30,45 and 90 minute mud, you better be good.
    It doesn't really sand.

    I've done a bit of taping over the years, but when I want it quick and really good, I hire out,
    But Ian, you should have fun with it.
    I wish I could find a good video for you on using the blades.
    Most home shows don't let you see the real pro, just the stand up comedian that pretends he knows.

    Don't buy the round tubs,
    Get the boxes of mud.
    One for the base coat
    and one topping mix.
    Throw away what you don't use.
    Just buy the big box, you will be glad you did, it's better stuff.
    For a first timer, don't use any quick mud.

    Video of a dork pretending he can mud drywall.
    This guy doesn't have a friggin clue.

    Notice that his blade is too short, it should be a six or an eight for the first coat.
    The ends of the blade should be pressed against the wall forcing a bend in the middle of the blade.
    That way is will smooth itself.
    Otherwise, you will be sanding the crap out of it like the dork in the video.

    The last coat I use a 12" or longer blade.

    For the first corner coats, you can use one made for that.
    That way the blade will press tight against the wall on either side.

    This guy is a little less dorky, but still not with the program.
    The guys I work with would laugh.

    Check out these video's Ian, much better
    http://www.drywallschool.com/videos.htm

    Or watch these video's first, and then go back to the top, and laugh your behind off.
    The last video's are soooo much better.
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  19. Lakee911

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    Actually, I'd rather build an access panel myself than buy one! If I can build one better and cheaper than I can buy it...why not?

    Jason
  20. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    You may be able to build it cheaper, but I doubt if it will be BETTER.

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