Dripping Faucet / Stuck Screw

Discussion in 'Plumbing Forum, Professional & DIY Advice, Tips & ' started by ElCid2000, Apr 29, 2009.

  1. ElCid2000

    ElCid2000 New Member

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    Hello there guys and girls, I’ve got a problem that I sure could use some help with.

    My house is 21 years old and the washer in my upstairs shower hot water handle has given up the ghost. I am just recently unable to turn the water completely off and I have a drip of approximately three gallons every 12 hours.

    The problem is that I can not remove the screw holding the hot water handle on. I’ve tried all kinds of penetrating sprays, a little heat, I put a screwdriver in the screw head and gave it a couple of whacks and tried tightening then loosening it. I’m not wasting the water, I catch it and water the animals and plants with it, I just want to get this drip fixed.

    I’m guessing that the screw is cross threaded; but would be willing to try any other “remedies†to get that screw loose. If it is cross threaded, what then?

    If you require any additional information, I’ll be glad to provide it.

    Thank you in advance,
    Michael
  2. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    A picture would help...but gennerally there are some neat tools to get out stripped screws.....Sears has a set called "screwzout"...it is like a drill bit tip, but backwards. You apply it to the screw head with some pressure, and gently tap the drill in reverse...it bites and removes it. If all else fails, you just take a bit about 3/8" and take the head completely off the screw. When working on old faucets, you have to accept that some parts may be fatally damaged in disassembly, so post that pic first, and we can tell you if or how easily you will be able to find replacement parts.
  3. kingsotall

    kingsotall Plunger/TurdPuncher

    I removed all three screws for hot/cold/diverter with those sears/craftsman easy outs before the other guy could run to the truck to get the sawzall. I don't have much luck with them grabbing screws. But to annhilate a screw head and make handle removal easy, yeah, go with them sears easyouts.

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  4. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Drill the head off the screw, remove the handle, then remove the remainder of the screw with a pair of pliers. If it breaks off, then use a small hacksaw to carefully remove about 1/8" of the stem and when you twist it off, it will usually unscrew the bolt with it.
  5. ElCid2000

    ElCid2000 New Member

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    Stuck handle not the screw......

    I stand corrected, the screw is out, it's the handle that won't come off. Anyway, any ideas on how to remove the handle?

    (I had a screw stuck in something else and was mixing the two incidents up in my head.)

    Thanks,
    Michael
  6. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    You need a faucet handle puller.
  7. ElCid2000

    ElCid2000 New Member

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    OK, I got the handle and a 21/32" brass nut off. Problem is, there is another brass nut that appears to need a 26/32" (13/16') as the 27/32" of my tub and valve socket is too large and will round off the corners of the nut. I do have a 13/16" socket but it is no where deep enough to work in this situation. I've looked all over the handles and spout and I don't see any brand name.

    So, as of now I'm at a standstill and the drip is still dripping. :rolleyes:

    ***This picture is not exactly what I'm dealing with but it's a pretty good example, at least the parts that stick out of the wall that is.***

    If I haven't mentioned it yet, you guys /girls are a great help, thank you.

    Any more ideas?

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  8. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    Oh now you need yet more tools...
    A faucet wrench set...

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    And, a seat wrench set...

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  9. ElCid2000

    ElCid2000 New Member

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    I've already been through one of these sets and none of them fit. Are there specific manufacturers that use non-standard fittings? I would figure that the original builder used the cheapest faucets known to man like they did with everything else in this house but don't get me started on that.

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    After looking around on the net, I can't figure out "exactly" what this tool does. Do I use this after I remove that 27/32" nut that I'm currently unable to move?

    I was figuring that once I got the second nut off, the entire valve was coming out and I could replace the washer. Is this not the case?

    Thanks for your patience, I'll eventually get this figured out and fixed.


    Michael
  10. Redwood

    Redwood Master Plumber

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    One of those sokets should fit. I have never met a stem yet that they didn't fit.

    The other wrench set removes the seat which you can get to one the stem has been removed. The seat looks similar to the picture below.

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    Often the seat becomes rough or has a groove eroded into it which makes it difficult for the washer to seal and tends to chew up new washers. Replace the seat for a long lasting repair.
  11. kingsotall

    kingsotall Plunger/TurdPuncher

    I didn't have the puller with me in the bag I took inside so I just banged on the handles with pump pliers and they came off. We were gutting the shower by the way for a whole new one.
  12. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Use the deep socket, but turn it with a pair of Channelock pliers. The stem will stick through the 1/2" square drive opening.
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