Drain/Waste Pipe Sleeve

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I am cutting into a soil drain (4") to install a basement toilet. The sleeves I've seen are rubber with large hose clamps. Are there any other types that are better and do I need to put some type of sealant on the ends of the cast iron drain before installing?

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As plumbers, we normally use a shielded coupling, a metal jacket to prevent shifting of the pipes.
No glue is needed with these.
 

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Whoa! How are you piping this toilet? If you don't know the proper means to connect the insert fitting, do you know how to pipe the toilet properly?
 

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I'm cutting out a section of cast iron pipe (4") and inserting a PVC sleeve with steel reinforced rubber boots on each end.
 

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That's not what he means, I believe. Do you know the correct fittings and venting setup to use?
 

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Yes, Nate, I know the correct fittings, pipe and sizes for everything. I submitted the original question because a plumber that I know (not a master) said it was fine to use an all rubber "T" underground, but a master plumber that I talked to said not to use an all rubber "T" underground because they can collapse eventually under pressure. Some municipalities, in fact, have outlawed them. Instead I should use a PTC "T" and couple it to the existing underground pipe with metal reinforced rubber boots as Terry stated above.
 

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Don't use an All Rubber Tee anywhere! Actually, I'm fairly certain you'd want a wye and not a Tee.
 

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Lakee911, I definitely will not use an all rubber boot anywhere. And yes, I meant a wye, not a tee. Thanks for the help.
 
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