Drain pipe size

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  1. DMP

    DMP New Member

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    I am redoing my Master Bath. I removed the tub and shower and going to replace it with a two head shower, I was going to use the tub drain but it is only uses 1 ½ “. If I use the shower drain that is 2” I need to move it 8’. (See Attachment)
    My question is having a vent that is 10’ from the drain will it cause problems with the p trap?
    Should I add the second 1 ½” pipe (See Red dotted Line) just to make sure I do not have any problems?
    Thank you for your help
    DMP
     

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  2. geniescience

    geniescience Homeowner

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    re-draw with lav drains, toilet drains and all venting. You will need a lot of help.

    in your next drawing, use one color to show pipes -- or two : existing, and projected. Don't use three different colors to show pipes.
     
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  4. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    You cannot reduce the pipe size as you go down a drain, so the shower drain piping needs to be replaced to be 2" or more all the way to where it can drain into at least a 2" pipe. On a 2" pipe, the vent takeoff needs to be within (I think) 60", or 5' of the trap.
     
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    What is a "safety pipe"? If you run the drain that far, regardless of 1 1/2" or 2", you need an intermediate vent. You are making the typical DIY mistake of assuming anyone can be a plumber as long as he can put some pipes together.
     
  6. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple BATHROOM DESIGN & BUILD for both Canada & the US

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    1 1/2" vs 2" Pipe

    For a double headed shower system a 2" pipe is ideal.

    Your thoughts for the new vent line I agree with but at the same time that whole line should be changed to 2" not restricted to 1 1/2".

    You just can't snake out a shower drain line that is 1 1/2" very easily. A snake running down a 2" line goes like a hot knife through butter.

    You need to bust concrete anyway i'm guessing so bring the drain line up to 2" and the 10' distance is 2 far to wet vent it so the second vent line will be required by code.

    I'm not a plumber and every home has it's own chemistry. Re draw your sketch and there are solid guys here that can help you with the science side. My gut says this plan will work but I always bring my plumber in to give the final say. It never surprises me when I learn about a new code that I never heard of before - this is why it takes plumbers so long to get their ticket - there is so much to learn.

    Good Luck.
     
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