Do I have to replace this pipe?

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  1. SusieQ

    SusieQ Member

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    I think I opened up a can of worms. Got the old garbage disposal out, and I was getting ready to put the new one in. Then I took a look at this pipe or whatever it's called, an extension?

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    Yuk, yuk, and more yuk.

    This is what was attached to it, that goes into the garbage disposal.
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    If I have to put new ones in should I just unscrew it and bring it to the store and get the same thing? Or should I replace everything with PVC?
  2. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    That portion of pipe is called a pipe nipple. 1-1/2" in size. If you can unthread it, then it can be replaced. Either galvanized or plastic.
  3. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Yes. The nipple is completely "shot". The way the trap is assembled, because the drain in the wall is too high for the disposer, will probably clause problems when you try to put it back together.
  4. Reach4

    Reach4 Active Member

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    Now is your chance to use your big pipe wrench. Rotate CCW toward the movable jaw.
  5. SusieQ

    SusieQ Member

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    It wont come out :(

    If I do get it out somehow, I can replace those other pipes with plastic too? And if I use plastic, should I use teflon tape? Or just nothing?

    p.s You guys rock, just in case you didn't know it :)
  6. SusieQ

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    Ugh, reading other threads, I have to saw it off, then chisel out what's left? Or... get another larger pipe wrench to hold the iron pipe then use the pipe wrench I have to turn the other galvanized (?) nipple?

    Jeez, Louise, I should have just called a plumber. On the other hand, once I learn this stuff, I can do it again.
    Last edited: Jul 3, 2014
  7. Reach4

    Reach4 Active Member

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    Wrench will be underneath the nipple. Lift the end of the handle as best you can. If you had a piece of pipe big enough to go over the end of the handle of the wrench, you could increase leverage. If you had two people, one could press down on the part the nipple screws into while the other person lifted up. I don't know how much force it takes to break something. A chisel is not the answer.

    Alternately, put the handle of the wrench down, and have the opening toward you. Pull the end toward you. You may get better leverage that way.

    A plumber may be the best answer.

    If you use a plastic nipple, yes, still use teflon.
  8. SusieQ

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    Woot! I used elbow grease. Got that puppy! Now off to get another nipple and the p-trap! Thanks, guys.
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  9. SusieQ

    SusieQ Member

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    I got as much gack off of it as I could, should I use a wire brush or something to get the rest off?
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  10. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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  11. SusieQ

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    :) :) :) That means a lot to me, Terry! I'm going to the plumbing supply store. I'll see if they have anything like the stuff you use that isn't fifty dollars! Why do you need to use it on the litter box? I just use a scrub brush and rubber gloves. Your cats must have some industrial strength pee.
  12. SusieQ

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    Speaking of enzymes... maybe I could just pour some of this stuff in. By the way, this stuff is amazing. Darn I wish I could get these smaller.[​IMG]

    http://www.mistermax.com/
  13. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    It just knocks down the smell for a long time. I don't smell that I have a cat in the house, which is nice. :)
  14. SusieQ

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    I can't get this locknut off :(. This was leaking so I wanted to replace the washer. So far I tried WD40 and heating it with a hairdryer. Do you guys know how? Well I know you do, but will you pretty please tell me how?


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  15. craigpump

    craigpump Member

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    Based on your pic, you're tightening the nut rather than loosening it. A pipe wrench will work better than channel locks.
  16. SusieQ

    SusieQ Member

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    I tried a pipe wrench. Loosey lefty :( . That was just a photo, I wasn't turning it that way.
    Happy 4th!
  17. SusieQ

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    Woot! Yay! Woot! Wanted to let you guys know what happened. I had that pipe that was jammed the heck in. No getting it out. Got a new piece of plastic pipe.
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    Couldn't quite screw the metal p-trap onto the plastic, so I used a little pipe dope, hope that's okay on plastic pipes. I tried to prop that puppy up on a box. I tried everything in the entire planet. Well, at least in my house. Nothing worked.
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    Finally, ding ding ding ding ding. I remembered Reach4 joked with me about using a car jack to lift it. Perfect. It worked.
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    Finished! Kitties came over to check it out.
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    Kitty said "She really did it? I'm shocked."
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  18. Viktoria

    Viktoria New Member

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    Good for you. Now get yourself some pipe wrenches. You deserve them.
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  19. presence

    presence New Member

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    My inclination for these situations is 3/4 fitting brush (for copper fittings); I cut the handle off and attach to a drill. Then when I apply thread sealant I do so to both male and female threads.


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    Had it gotten "crushed" when attempting to remove the nipple... your next best solution is to cut it off flush with a reciprocating saw and use a

    Walton 50008 #8 Pipe (1 1/2 NPT) Extractor

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  20. plumberjeff

    plumberjeff Mister Plumber

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    I know you're happy to have it in and working, *but* (and I'm surprised this hasn't been mentioned) the white pvc piece in your trap isn't necessary and slows down the flow. Not critical, but it looks like you might be able to remove it, and move the trap up higher where it belongs. Check it out.
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