Deep well pump not keeping prime or pressure

Discussion in 'Pumps and Tanks Well Forum & Blog' started by goofymonkey33, Nov 27, 2007.

  1. goofymonkey33

    goofymonkey33 New Member

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    Hello, I'll make this short because I know how busy every one is. I'm a long time reader, but just had a question I couldn't figure out, so now I must post.

    I just swapped deep well pumps in my house, the old was a 1/2 HP shitler, maybe 35 yrs old. Switch went bad, decided to replace the whole thing. So far, it's been a nightmare. I replaced it with a Water Ace 1/2 HP from lowes. My problem seems to be now that I can't hardly prime it, and when I do, the pressure is for crap, maybe 20lbs at the pump. I can get it to spike briefly at like 28 lbs. This is really irritating me as everyone is telling me I either need to pull my ejector, or get a new bigger pump. Please help.

    Thanks to every one in advance.

    Jeff
  2. sammyhydro11

    sammyhydro11 Previous member

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    where is the pump located?

    Sam
  3. speedbump

    speedbump Previous member

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    That old 1/2 hp was probably twice the actual horsepower that that WA from Lowes is.

    bob...
  4. goofymonkey33

    goofymonkey33 New Member

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    The pump is under the house. Convertible jet. How can I solve the problem?

    Thanks guys,

    Jeff
  5. sammyhydro11

    sammyhydro11 Previous member

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    you have to make sure that those lines coming into the front of the pump are full of water. You also have to close the regulator on the pump in order for it to catch its prime and come up to pressure. if you dont do both of those things you will not prime that pump. it you do acomplish filling the lines and closing the regualtor and you it still doesn't catch its prime then you have a problem somewhere else. Do you access to the well head?

    Sammy
  6. goofymonkey33

    goofymonkey33 New Member

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    I could possibly have access to the head. It's under a bit of frozen ground, but I'm not adverse to the digging. I thought about checking for depth of the well, and also the type of ejector that is on it. However, I'm not all together certain I want to pull the whole thing up.

    If the 2 lines are not full, would that cause the diminished flow too?

    Also, I was talking to what I would consider a veteran. He's been drilling wells for over 20 yrs. He said that when I pulled the old pump, the well water table could have gone down a bit thus not allowing the new pump to work as efficiently? I'm not sure exactly what he meant, but should I be concerned about a well problem?

    Thanks,

    Jeff
  7. sammyhydro11

    sammyhydro11 Previous member

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    I have no idea what the well vet is referring to.Taking the old pump off would have no affect on the water. Anyway, like i said before if the lines are not full of water the system will not prime. If you find the lines being empty then there is a good chance that the footvalve is not holding or the leathers on the jet assembly(if its a 2" well) are allowing water by them.If it's a twin pipe jet assembly in a 6" well then you could also have a crack in the drop pipe or a broken fitting. The well head on these systems should never be buried and should always be accessible for repair.

    Sammy
  8. goofymonkey33

    goofymonkey33 New Member

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    How much of a job is it to replace those? The top line is a little low, but possibly from sloshing it around.

    Jeff
  9. sammyhydro11

    sammyhydro11 Previous member

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    If you see that both lines have water in them and asuming the jet isn't clogged,you should be able to prime the system. There should be a regulator on that cheap pump you bought. Close it all the way,fill the pump with water,put the plug or gauge back in,and turn the pump on. It should come right up to pressure. You should also be sure thet the pump is either mounted directly inline with the lines coming into it or above them. If it still doesn't prime then i would look into pulling the jet out of the well and if you have never done it before,i would call a pro out.

    Sammy
  10. goofymonkey33

    goofymonkey33 New Member

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    Reading other posts and such I'm now working with a Goulds. 1 HP. It's a lot nicer. I can see that. Now I'm only having an issue priming it. I can't seem to get it all the way, I close the regulator, and turn it on. It only jumps maybe 1-2lbs. I know there is still water in the lines. Any advice?

    Jeff
  11. sammyhydro11

    sammyhydro11 Previous member

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    Where is the gauge in reference to the regulator. If it is after the regulator you will not read much pressure at all.

    Sammy
  12. goofymonkey33

    goofymonkey33 New Member

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    It's on top of the regulator, directly. I've had a plumber come out now, I got totally frusterated with it. lol He's unable to prime it as well. He says possible a cracked casing, since I can get it to hold water in the lines and pump without the level falling after letting it set for an hour or so, we're almost positive it isn't the foot. I'm so frusterated now.

    A neighbor a few doors down says she replaces the foot on hers every 5-6 yrs because of sediment? Apparently there is some really hard water there. This doesn't seem right to me, seeing how I've never, in 37 yrs replaced mine.

    Thanks again guys,

    Jeff
  13. sammyhydro11

    sammyhydro11 Previous member

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    Monkey,
    if the casing was cracked then you would loose some of that water. If the water is still there after trying to prime it, you have a clogged jet assembly and it needs to be pulled out and replaced.

    Sammy
  14. goofymonkey33

    goofymonkey33 New Member

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    Sammy,

    Your help has been tremendous. I'm not sure you realize how much you do. I must thank you for everything.

    After I read your last post, while waiting fo the well guys, I decided to mark exactly where the water was and come back in an hour. It's falls less than 1/16th of an inch per hour.

    I figured i was a new pump/jet, so I'd try the water again.

    Thanks a ton,

    Jeff
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