Cycle Stop Valve, or new tank, or both?

[nmac]

Thanks all for the great help provided here! I have gained much useful info from searching previous threads, but am still fuzzy on what to do with my tank.

I currently have a Well-Rite WR60 Online tank, about 15 years old, and am considering either installing a larger tank or a Cycle Stop Valve to extend the life of our pump. I had to replace the Jacuzzi Hurricane pump about 4 years ago, getting less than 8 years of service. The replacement is a Jacuzzi T5HR8P9.

I was thinking to add a CSV150 to the current tank setup (my pressure switch currently set to 40/60). Would I need to reset the cut-out to about 52psi, given the fixed 50psi of the CSV150? Are there problems with leaks with the plastic versions of these valves? Is it worth it go for the twice-as-expensive CSV1Z or CSV1W?

I also considered replacing the tank with larger, maybe a Well Mate WM12 or similar-sized, but I think my current tank T is a proprietary Well-Rite thread that would need to be replaced as well. Can I expect much more service out of my current 15 year-old Well-Rite? I am leaning towards adding the Cycle Stop Valve, and dealing with the tank when it fails.

Thanks all!

 

[Valveman]

If the bladder in the pressure tank is still good, there is no reason to replace the tank. Adding a CSV may get you a few more years from that tank. After adding the CSV, you can replace that tank with a much smaller tank, like a WM6, or even a 4.4 gallon size tank as comes with our Pside-Kick control package. The CSV150 is a plastic valve that can develop a small leak. For this reason we recommend installing these valves outside or in the well casing using a CSC1 coupling. The leak does not stop the valve from working, and this model has better flow characteristics than any other valve, you just have to install in a place where the small leak will not be a problem. If you need to install inside, I would recommend a CSV1W. You can check with some of the following people for a good price on equipment.



http://www.berryhillirrigation.com

http://www.growerssolution.com/page/GS/PROD/CycleStop/csv1z

http://wellwaterinuse.com/cyclestopvalve-csv1z.aspx

http://www.wwpp.com/products/wellaccessories/wellaccessories.htm

http://www.willeywelldrilling.com/results.php3?cat=CYCLE+STOP

http://www.johndeerelandscapes.com/_Products/Irrg_wellpump.asp

http://www.roguevalleypump.com/pages/whatwedo/pumps/cyclestop.html

http://www.schaeferbrospump.com/constantvalves.html

http://www.ballardwaterwell.com/

http://www.beecavedrilling.com/water-well-system.html

http://www.doodlebugpump.com/articles/default.html?filter=topic

 

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[nmac]

Thanks for the reply, Valveman. I need to install in my basement - no ability to install in the well - so the leaking of the CSV150 may be a problem. Is the leak something for which I can just stick a drip pan underneath, or is it more substantial?

Do you know what the difference is between the CSV1W and the CSV1Z? My haphazard research seemed to indicate both are adjustable but maybe one is meant for in-well use? And is the pressure drop or flow restriction across these worse than across the CSV150 models?

Thanks again!

 

[Valveman]

Yes you can put a CSV150 over a drip pan in case it leaks a bit. And yes the CSV150 has less friction loss than the other valves but, you probably wouldn't notice the difference.

 

[nmac]

Just getting back to this after a couple of days. I am leaning towards the CSV150 or CSV160. I am also installing a 2.0cf neutralizer at the same time, and want to maximize the flow for back-washing. Does that mean I should choose the CSV160 instead of the 150? Does the pump size prevent me using the CSV160?

And what should the pressure switch setting be compared to the CSV pressure?


Thanks again!

 

[Valveman]

If your water level is less than 60', you can use the CSV160 and set your pressure switch to 50/70. If is is deeper than 60' to water, your pump won't build enough pressure to use a 50/70 setting.

 

[nmac]

I thought that with the new neutralizer, I should explore whether the CSV160 was possible.

The pump currently works OK with the 40/60 setting. (Actually, it cuts out at about 58, but I assume that is due to the pressure switch setting being slightly off.) According to the installer when the pump was installed in 2005, the well is 100' deep, water at 20', pump installed at 75.'

I thought I would have to reset the pressure switch to 45/65 for the CSV160, but maybe even that will be too much for the pump.
I assume that for the CSV150, I would leave the current 40/60 setting.

Thanks!

 

[Valveman]

"I thought I would have to reset the pressure switch to 45/65 for the CSV160, but maybe even that will be too much for the pump." YES


I assume that for the CSV150, I would leave the current 40/60 setting. YES

 

[nmac]

Thanks again, Valveman!