crack in toilet lid mount hole?? Fixable?

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by sneekeemt, Apr 11, 2011.

  1. sneekeemt

    sneekeemt New Member

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    :confused:HELP!!! My toilet leaks each time it is flushed from the seat bolt. After taking it apart I noticed that there is a small hair line crack less about a quarter inch inside the bolt mount hole. Is this fixable or do have to buy a new toilet???...for such a small hole in a such a ronadom/ non-important area of the toilet???
  2. SacCity

    SacCity In the Trades

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    There is something else going on. A small crack at the seat bolt should not cause water leakage.
    More likly you are getting water from the gasket between the tank and the base of the toilet.
    You can pick up a gasket for less than $5 a pop at the local hardware store
  3. sneekeemt

    sneekeemt New Member

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    Um, no I can ee water comig out of the crack when flushed; it's diffinatley leaking from the hole! See pics.

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    Any suggestions??
  4. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    Sounds like time to replace the toilet...appears to be an internal crack. See what kind of consensus you get, but I think it's time for a new one.
  5. Terry

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    An old cracked $75 toilet. Let me think.............yeah, just dump it and get a new one before you have to replace floors, carpets and drywall.
    I got a call today from a homeowner that has to spend $8,000 to fix what a leaking toilet did.
  6. Gary Swart

    Gary Swart In the Trades

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    Look at the bright side. The Briggs was not a very good toilet to begin with. Now is an excellent time to get a quality toilet. If you had spent any amount of time around this forum, you would know that the overwhelming preference for toilets is the Toto line. Not available in discount stores, and likely you would have to have a plumbing shop order one. You can see a complete lineup of models elsewhere on this forum.
  7. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    quote; you would know that the overwhelming preference for toilets is the Toto line

    But not necessarily the concensus opinion. I have only installed a half dozen Toto toilets and have not had any complaints about the others.
  8. Terry

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    hj is right. A toilet without a crack is better then a toilet with a crack.

    We do however pull out a lot of the toilets that hj installs. They work for some, and not for others. Every once in a while we pull out Champion toilets, Cimarrons, Wellworths, Mansfield Alto, Briggs Vacuity, and I was at a church in Monroe that pinned warnings all over the bathroom about how to double flush the toilets that hj has in his home; the Eljer one-piece. That one works too. Just follow the directions pinned on the stall. Flush once, then use paper, then flush again. No worries mate! We keep the plunger handy in case you need it. But if you follow directions you should be good.

    I think that 80% can use anything without worries. I thought I was in the group too, until I would visit my daughter, and dang if I wasn't having problems with her builder grade stuff. She suffered for almost two years before she "let" me replace them.

    From the picture, I can't even see a crack though. I see adhesive around the bolt hole.
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2011
  9. sneekeemt

    sneekeemt New Member

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    It only leaks when flushed and it's usually only a drip or two, I seriously doubt that I would have to replace the sub floor. It almost appears to me that it is a design flaw and not even a crack....

    :confused:TERRY ARE YOU BLIND?:confused:

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    RED = pointed out area

    YELLOW = circled out "crack"

    Green = where it leaks!
  10. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    I saw the seam, but I've also never seen a bowl with a seam there, nor have I ever seen a leak there.

    You have a first. Way go to.

    You have an amazing toilet.

    You might as well keep it. It only drips a little bit anyway. It's perfect.

    Yes, you too can own a Briggs, they're that good.
    Last edited: Apr 12, 2011
  11. sneekeemt

    sneekeemt New Member

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    “A sarcastic person has a superiority complex that can be cured only by the honesty of humility, that's whay it's the refuge of losers!

    I apologize if I offended you when I asked if you were "BLIND". It seemed relatively obvious from the photos that there was some abnormality in the exact location I had described. I will replace the toilet tomorrow, if there is no legitimate fix to this unusual problem! I was hoping to save the money for my first born's college fund!:rolleyes:

    Enjoy the "stool"
  12. Terry

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    You might try silicone or epoxy on that. It's not a crack, just a loose seam.
    There are plenty of manufacturers that would do that.

    But I would frame the picture. Here's one I like.
    I have this one in my dining room right next to my Van Gogh
    At least I have both of my ears.

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    Van Gogh
    Last edited: Apr 13, 2011
  13. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    It's a defect in the toilet...probably been there since manufacturered. Depending on where that moisture ends up, a drip or two each time flushed could, over time, create problems below in the floor. It may be small enough that it evaporates. It is not normal. Trying to fix any porcelain product that may have some moisture trapped in it is problematic and unlikely to work long term - stuff doesn't usually stick to wet surfaces, and then, even if it did, you'd have to leave it for awhile to cure. If there is an internal channel, it could already have messed up underneath. What's to say that it isn't full of water beneath that seam into the bowels of the thing?
  14. gusherb94

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    If that were my toilet, and considering it's a Briggs...I wouldn't even think twice about tossing that out...
  15. Cookie

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    Give it to a relative, lol. (one you don't like)
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    If you need a loan on a relative, I got plenty I can offer. :)
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