Jgad60
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I have two 50 year old Case 3000s in a seldom used vacation home which recently started leaking. One started leaking a little bit a few years ago which manifested in a little water leaking onto the floor below the toilet and when I crawled into the crawl space I found moisture and a few drips where the drain pipe came through the sub floor. I figured it must be a dried up/leaking seal when the water leaves the toilet. I planned to find and order a new gasket and replace it but had not done so yet. We just used the other toilet.
This is an old beach house my wife's grandparents built in 1964. She and her sister inherited it but don't use it much. Every time we go I end up involved in major maintenance or repair which for the most part I enjoy. No one had used it in five months. Water supply was shut off. This past weekend we went and were using the "good" toilet. It started trickling water onto the floor so I crawled under the house and found a substantial leak. It was dripping heavily and eater had migrated at least 10 feet in every direction as seen by freshly wet underside of the sub floor. (No insulation, 2 x 6 t&g sub floor.) It was not a supply side leak. Had my wife shut off the supply line to the toilet but the heavy dripping continued. Had her flush the toilet with the supply shut off. No increased leakage when the toilet drained but the dripping immediately reduced. A lot of water had migrated and was presumably being stored in and around the sub floor so I don't know how much of the dripping was from that. Bathroom has tile floor, no visible water coming up through it. Next day dripping had stopped and heavy moisture was reduced to residual wetness.
It gets better... We went back to using toilet #2 and it seemed to work OK with the expected leaking onto the floor but after a few uses it failed to clear the bowl and then nearly over flowed. Removal of the tank lid revealed that the tank was not filling although water was coming out to some extent. after plunging the bowl I filled the tank with a bucket and flushed. Worked fine but would not refill the tank. Very minor leaking into the crawl space. We shut off all the water, locked it up and left. I did not take either one off the wall yet.
Obviously there is an age issue. Might there also be an issue with lack of regular use. Toilet #1, which was leaking so much appears to be draining from the tank even when not flushing. As far as I can tell the only place they could be leaking is at the union between the toilet and the drain. Is there some kind of wax ring? Unless the porcelain is cracked it seems it must be a seal. Is it strange that the two leaks are different? I see a rebuild kit available online but I am hesitant since the internal workings have nothing to do with leaking.
Does anyone have similar experiences with these toilets. Any suggestions/thoughts on causes, repairs, plan of attack, etc. are appreciated.
This is an old beach house my wife's grandparents built in 1964. She and her sister inherited it but don't use it much. Every time we go I end up involved in major maintenance or repair which for the most part I enjoy. No one had used it in five months. Water supply was shut off. This past weekend we went and were using the "good" toilet. It started trickling water onto the floor so I crawled under the house and found a substantial leak. It was dripping heavily and eater had migrated at least 10 feet in every direction as seen by freshly wet underside of the sub floor. (No insulation, 2 x 6 t&g sub floor.) It was not a supply side leak. Had my wife shut off the supply line to the toilet but the heavy dripping continued. Had her flush the toilet with the supply shut off. No increased leakage when the toilet drained but the dripping immediately reduced. A lot of water had migrated and was presumably being stored in and around the sub floor so I don't know how much of the dripping was from that. Bathroom has tile floor, no visible water coming up through it. Next day dripping had stopped and heavy moisture was reduced to residual wetness.
It gets better... We went back to using toilet #2 and it seemed to work OK with the expected leaking onto the floor but after a few uses it failed to clear the bowl and then nearly over flowed. Removal of the tank lid revealed that the tank was not filling although water was coming out to some extent. after plunging the bowl I filled the tank with a bucket and flushed. Worked fine but would not refill the tank. Very minor leaking into the crawl space. We shut off all the water, locked it up and left. I did not take either one off the wall yet.
Obviously there is an age issue. Might there also be an issue with lack of regular use. Toilet #1, which was leaking so much appears to be draining from the tank even when not flushing. As far as I can tell the only place they could be leaking is at the union between the toilet and the drain. Is there some kind of wax ring? Unless the porcelain is cracked it seems it must be a seal. Is it strange that the two leaks are different? I see a rebuild kit available online but I am hesitant since the internal workings have nothing to do with leaking.
Does anyone have similar experiences with these toilets. Any suggestions/thoughts on causes, repairs, plan of attack, etc. are appreciated.
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