Building a better tile shampoo shower niche - a how to guide

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  1. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple I love these ACO Shower Drains - Best in Class

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    Building a better shampoo niche takes time and skill. There are so many ways to do this and so many ways to screw it up badly.

    The reason the posts below and many hundreds more are gone from this forum and others is all the indirect act of me trying to build a better shower niche - the testing I did - the failure of these tests and the resulting call from the manufacture of the niches I tested.

    Lets not get to deep on details but if a book holding a niche says "Waterproof" on it. It might not mean you can fill it with water for a week.

    If a box says vapour proof - it may not be vapour proof....

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    My buddies daughter's tub shower renovation. The LED's part of a lighting plan for this space.
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  2. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple I love these ACO Shower Drains - Best in Class

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    Building a shower niche (How to Guide) - Setting the back tile tight

    You need to max out space for most shower niches.

    Typically the largest a shower niche can be is the width of the wall framing plus 1/4". With a 2"x4" wall this equals 3 3/4". With a 2"x6" wall this equals 5 3/4".

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    The lower niche is more for play time. The long space perfect for bath time. The larger taller niche to the right will be for shampoo and conditioner bottles.
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  3. johnfrwhipple

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    Centering the tile niche on the plumbing fixtures

    Layout of the niche is critical to the over all design. This is why we design the tile layout before we even do the framing upgrades.

    Tile layout and lighting layout should be done first - at the very beginning.

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    You can see I used up some scraps on the back side of the shower niches. I do not currently use Kerdi or Kerdi DS. Neither product is on my recommended supplier list for multiple reasons I will not get in too here.
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    Building a custom shower niche with Denshield

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    Another photo of a custom niche - but this one is for the toilet paper. Saves space and works as a perfect night light.
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  6. johnfrwhipple

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    Building a shower niche in a steam shower or steam room

    No grout as yet. This low niche is perfect for shaving your legs. Perfect for shower sex. And perfect for setting the mood in the shower. Not grouted as yet. One of my favourite shower builds of all time this one....

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  7. johnfrwhipple

    johnfrwhipple I love these ACO Shower Drains - Best in Class

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    Building a niche that meets the long wall

    Full topical waterproofing. You can see the Noble Flex drain flashing in this photo.

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    Building a Marble Tile Shower Niche - Shower Cubby

    Small niche - another one designed with the long wall running into the niche. On this project the bathroom was huge. We build out the back wall with 2"x6" joists to prepare a niche for the tub filler.

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    Action shot of the top tile being set.
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    Building a shower niche or cubby - Prepare a grout sample board

    Another low niche for shaving - or not ;)

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    Tips for building a shampoo shower niche larger

    To remove this section of wall stud I first drill a series of small holes in three directions through the stud to be removed.

    This is a non - load bearing wall and the drilling process makes cutting out the stud easier.

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    Cutting out a wall stud - non load bearing wall

    This is my Japanese pull saw in action

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    What is the best size for a custom shower niche?

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    Many times one full tile looks best.
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    Steam Shower: NobleSeal TS Shower Niche
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    Designing playtime into a shower niches' location

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    Using masking tape while building triple shower niches

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  16. Keithett

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    John,

    I've been reading up on how you create a shower niche and if I understand this correctly, you create an oversize waterproof niche opening so you have the ability to adjust the tile as necessary to match the surrounding tile. I'm going to be tiling a new shower next year and also want my tiled niche to match up exactly with the surrounding tile and like this approach. What I wanted to know is the best way to fill in the approximately 1" (plus or minus) gap behind the tile. Instead of filling this gap with thin set, would it be better to grout in a shim between the niche and the tile? If water behind the tile is a concern, I could make this shim out of a non-porous material.
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    John that small shower room w/ the toilet in it, does water make it almost to the door or what?
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    Grouting Outside Corners

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    A tiled niche for toilet paper. Adding a wow factor

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    Shower Niche as a light source - working with Chromatherapy lighting

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