Best laser level under $400

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  1. smhowell

    smhowell New Member

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    I appreciate the people who answered my $200 question, but after looking at everything, it looks like I might need a little more laser level. I need one that is self leveling, easy to use, creates a 360 degree line, and can be used to generate a horizontal or vertical line. Please render your opinion, if you have one that you particularly like. Thanks in advance.
  2. mreeves

    mreeves New Member

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    Laser Level site

    I have the Porter Cable RT-7690-2 which will do everything you need but it is $720 retail. The most bang for the buck you will get for under $400 is the Laserjamb Q2 for $399. You can go to www.laserlevels.net and find just about every laserlevel that is out there.
  3. builderRob

    builderRob New Member

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    Laser Level under $400

    the CST/Berger LaserMark Rotary Laser 57-LM30 is one of the best lasers Ive ever used for the money. i tried engineersupply and they had good price. i bought mine at over a year ago and havnt regretted it since. its not auto leveling but i can get very accurate with it even though it has a bubble level
  4. dgold

    dgold Product R&D for a powertool manufacturer

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    How about a water level?

    I'll start by saying I'm biased. I was the product manager for the DeWalt laser portfolio for over 3 years and was on the development team that launched the majority of the products DeWalt currently offers. I haven't been involved with that business for over four years now, but needless to say, I do know the products. With that said...

    If you don't need to use it outside with a detector, get the DeWalt DW087. It's not a 360-deg laser, it's a line laser. You can mount it on any metallic surface with it's built-in bracket, or with one screw, and it has a very wide fan angle. It will pretty much work for any interior task. In terms of durability, it blows away anything else you can currently buy out there - regardless of price.

    But for your features / price you mention, getting a pro-quality product is difficult. Have you considered a water level? For a few bucks worth of 1/4" or 3/8" clear vinyl tubing, a sharpie, and a little bit of water, they're extremely accurate, self-leveling, easy to use, require no calibration, and durability is a non-issue. Put simply, they work. I'll post a separate reply to explain the easiest way to make one.

    I won't bash competitors in a public forum. If you want my honest opinion on CST or any of the laser products out there, feel free to send me a private message.
  5. dgold

    dgold Product R&D for a powertool manufacturer

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    How to make a cheap & easy water level.

    A water level works on the principle that when put in a tube, (imagine the tubing shapped in a large "U") the meniscuses on both ends of the tubing finds the same height.

    Start w/ some 3/8" ID clear vinyl tubing, a sharpie marker, and a some water in a dixie cup. Get a lot of tubing.

    There will be a fixed end to your tube and a working end. Mount one end (which will be the fixed end) of the tubing several feet higher than the reference height you want to work at. The reference height is the common height (elevation) from which you're going to measure everything up or down, just like you would do with a rotary laser level -- maybe the height of the top of your base cabinets for instance if your application is setting base cabinets. DO NOT CAP THE END -- it must be open to work properly. I'd just put a nail straight through the fixed end of the tubing and mount it to a 2x4, some drywall you can easily patch, or even tape it to something, if you can tape it very securely. Here's the important thing, the fixed end cannot be allowed to move up or down.

    Then put some water in the tube, please don't fill it up. Fill it up from the "working end" of the tube. When the water fills the tube on the floor and the miniscus starts rising up the toward you, do this... WATCHING THE MENISCUS ON THE FIXED END, raise it to the exact height of your reference height, not by adding water... but by pulling tubing on the working end off the floor and above the reference height. Once you've done that, you have a giant "U" with both meniscus's at the reference height. If you still have too much dry tubing on the working end add some water and keep more "wet" tubing on the floor. Ideally you want a few feet of dry tubing when both meniscus's are at the reference height. Then use the sharpie to mark the tube at the meniscus on the WORKING end.

    At this point, your level is calibrated and there is one rule: Since you can't plug the tubing at either end (it won't work)... DON'T DROP or lower the working end to the point that the water drains out! wrap the working end of the tubing a few inches below the opening with some duct tape and punch a hole in it so that it can be hung high above the reference point off a nail, screw, or whatever.

    Now you can take the working end anywhere - keeping the sharpie mark above the working end's meniscus and slowly lower the mark until it meets the meniscus. When they meet, you're at your reference elevation, exactly level with the reference elevation set at your fixed end.

    I know it sounds like a lot of work, but if it sounds confusing, follow these instructions one time and it'll click. It'll all make sense and you'll have a great little water level that'll always works, inside, outside, over long distances, etc.

    Any old-timer tradesman will know this technique and tell you it works. The really stubborn ones won't buy laser levels at all because they don't understand why they'd spend $1000 to do what in their minds $5 worth of tubing does.

    Hope it helps someone.
    David
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