Any problems with this bathroom layout?

Discussion in 'Shower & Bathtub Forum & Blog' started by trinitony, Jul 20, 2010.

  1. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    This is the upper level of a two story, and bathroom remodel.

    The toilet will be turned so that the tank is along the right wall. The door into the master closet (bottom right) is now 32", and the shower has been move over maybe by 6". I will like to install a 6' tub and not 5' as shown in the drawing.


    Thanks!

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  2. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    As Dolly Parton once said, "It looks like you are trying to put 10 gallons of mud into a 5 gallon bucket". At the very least I would rotate the toilet so it is under the shelf unit. And that door next to the shower looks like it will have to be LESS than 2'-0" to fit into the space which makes it almost useless.
  3. jadziedzic

    jadziedzic Member

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    Exchange the position of the (turned) toilet and shower; that will give you more room for the entry door. A two foot door may not even by allowed by your local building code.
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    trinitony New Member

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    ok, I did mention that the toilet was going to be rotated, and the door was going to be 32 inches. I guess I should of redrawn the entire diagram to scale before posting. Oh, that shelf unit is no more.. lol..I did write 32 on the diagram but it came out so so small..
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  5. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    The entry door is now 32", I should of erase the orignal 2' before posting. Did mention it though - anything else? Thanks for the answeres.
  6. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    this is what I should of originally post...

    now shower the toilet turned, and the bottom door label 32 " wide

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  7. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    The door would be better placed between the shower and the toilet.
    That would also allow for a much larger shower.
  8. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    Terry on the original design, that is exactly how it was done. And where the door is now, was originally designed for storage and small TV. Wifey didn't like the idea of having to go through the toilet to get to the bath.:D I tried to talk her into it, but she wouldn't go for it.
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  9. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    Terry or anyone - as someone else above suggested, and my wife sort of hinted to, would it be wise to flip the toilet and the shower from a functional standpoint. This is the rear corner of the house with a window - trying to paint the picture here. Top right hand corner in the below pic.

    Should the toilet be closest to a window?

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  10. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    The only hassle with any plumbing near a window is running the vent. Since a toilet can be wet vented, it isn't as big a problem as a sink.
  11. trinitony

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    I'm now thinking about moving the right wall over 1 foot so that I could have a bigger shower and more floor space with the 6' tub. The MB closet next to the bathroom is (I think) 12 by 8, and really doesn't have to be that large. What u guys think? Moving the wall over will only take a couple hours, so no problem there.
  12. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Extend the tub platform past the window, and make the area from it to the corner the shower stall. Put the door in the center and the toilet next to it. That eliminates the "pinch point" between the shower corner and the tub platform to get to the toilet. The door only has to be 2'-0" clear, because it is not the primary entry, and that should leave you enough room to install a "knee wall" next to the toilet if she does not like to see it when entering the room, since the toilet only needs 30" between the walls.
  13. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    hj - sounds like u been talking with my wife.:D She said the same thing (minus the 30", she say 36" or nothing since she has to clean behind it and to think about resale for some folks), of course when she's talking she's not considering the work involved..lol. The 'pinch point' was a concern and that's why we decided to go out a foot more to the right. Only thing though is that I'm trying to visualize the knee wall. I'll draw a rough diagram of what I think you've said and post it.

    Thanks!
  14. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    Final...

    This is final - it will my third time moving the entrance on the right to my master closet. After visiting showrooms this past weekend, we saw an 8' vanity (3+3+ 2' makeup station) which wifey must have.

    What you guys think?;)

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  15. jadnashua

    jadnashua Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx

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    If the pocket doors fit in behind the shower, my preference is to build the wall out some to support the tile better than the shallow supports they ususally come with. Also, for the pocket door hardware, check out www.johnsonhardware.com. I was very impressed with their line of hardware. I ended up with a two channel trolly for a heavier door than I had need of, and it is quiet, and moves with barely a push from one end of the track to the other. They have various systems for doors weighing up to (I think) 300#), so they're all overkill for any typical door you might have in a home. I think mine was rated for 150#. Their thin stud replacements are wood wrapped in a metal U-channel to make them stiffer (and straighter!) than the typical stuff you see. I didn't use them, though, and built a normal 2x4 wall for the pocket at the head end of my tub/shower. This gave me room for the plumbing and the flexural strength I felt I needed for the tile.
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    trinitony New Member

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    Tks, I was looking at ^ earlier this morning.:D Google has become my best friend lately..lol Glad to hear good reviews on their hardware. Oh, I already planned on building the wall out due to electrical, like adding a 2 x 3 onto the exisiting framing.
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  17. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    oops, that diag' should read 13' 8" and 10' 8"
  18. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    pocket doors are in...

    shown with some spare doors I have...the main entrance to the bathroom, and the entrance to the master closet...

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  19. trinitony

    trinitony New Member

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    I ended up putting 36" between the toilet and the knee wall. I've run cut off valves into the knee wall for the bathroom.

    What is the typical height and depth of a knee wall?
  20. WorthFlorida

    WorthFlorida USCG escorting cruise ship leaving Port Everglades

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    A nice layout compared to the first ones.

    I see a possible few problems.

    1) To stand in front of the right hand sink it looks like the corner of the tub frame will it be in the way?
    2) Also, does the right hand vanity have a door or draws on the very far right. A door it will bang into the tub frame and may not open all the way.
    3) If there are draws, will they be able to be opened enough?
    4) Where is the door for the shower? It should be facing the vanity.
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