Another Pitless Adapter Question

Discussion in 'Pumps and Tanks Well Forum & Blog' started by mortal798, May 9, 2011.

  1. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    Hey everyone,

    I am having well problems. My 1/2 hp 230v pump runs all the time 24/7. It puts out 22psi and 3gpm. The pressure never gets high enough to trip the switch off. I need to pull the pump.

    The pitless adapter in my well is one that I can't find any mention of excpt here.

    Anybody ever see one of these? How do you get it to let go? I am an Auto Tech Instructor, so I can fix just about anything. I have never had to deal with anyting like this, so any help would be HUGE!

    Thanks!
  2. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    Pitless picture

    pitless adapter.jpg

    Here is the pic...
  3. WellWaterProducts

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  4. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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  5. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    I am starting to think that I just need to pry up on the tab near the pin. As you can see from the pic, there is no safety cable attached to the pump. Is that a good sign - like the pump isn't very far down? Or is it a bad sign - like the company that installed it was too cheap to attach a rope to the pump?
  6. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa DIYer, not in the trades

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    Is "something like", the same - only different? :p

    My pitless has a steel release cable that moves a cam. I'm not seeing any release cable in the photo. It looks like a hinge pin on a cam but how is the cam rolled?
  7. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    Oh, this is a 5" well, the pitless is exactly 4' below grade, and the water is 18' below grade. I have no idea how deep the well is or how deep the pump is set, but I am hoping not too deep...
  8. LLigetfa

    LLigetfa DIYer, not in the trades

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    Ja, I was wondering if the release didn't go down the inside of the pull pipe like in the link you posted.
  9. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    ;)Man, I thought for sure somebody was going to bust out with all of the information by now!;)

    Should I just make a hook and go for it?:confused:
  10. WellWaterProducts

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    It has been over 15 years since I removed one of those. I think that the rod has a lot to do with releasing it. Post a picture of the top of your well.
  11. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    That would be about right, this well was put in with the house in 1994.
  12. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    Top of well

    Here is the top... Top of well_1.jpg
  13. WellWaterProducts

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    Look at the link for the product and it takes you to installation instructions. From what I remember, you need to be very careful when removing it to not lose the oring.
  14. valveman

    valveman Moderator Staff Member

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    I believe that is one of those kinds of pitless adapters that you need a tool to unhook. I believe you need a rod with washer welded to the bottom. The washer works like turning a screw with a coin. You reach down in that 1" pipe with the rod, stick the washer into a groove, and turn it to the left to loosen the lock. At least that is my best guess.
  15. WellWaterProducts

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    Installation Instructions
    1. 1. Cut and thread 1" pull pipe. (See chart for length). Assemble support bar, pull
      pipe, and pitless body. Be sure that arrow on support bar and discharge hole on pitless body are in line with each other.
    2. Cut a piece of 1/2" pipe 3" longer than pull pipe and flatten one end to fit stainless steel screw or weld on adjustment tool to one end of 1/2" pipe.
    3. Measure distance from bottom of support bar to center of discharge hub, or use assembly as a measuring stick.
    4. Drill hole in casing, the same measured distance as above:
      4" casing - 1-1/4" hole or smaller
      5" casing - 1-1/4" hole or smaller
      6" casing - 1-1/4" hole or smaller
      NOTE: For 2" MCK model - 2" hole or smaller
    5. Notch or mark top of casing directly above discharge hole.
    6. Clamp discharge hub around casing to assure watertight seal around discharge hole.
    7. Attach pump and drop pipe to pitless body, apply Anti-Seize/Gasket Lube to
      O-ring, and lower into casing.
    8. Line up mark on support bar with notch cut in casing.
    9. Turn stainless steel screw clockwise until O-ring seals on inner wall of casing.
    10. Complete installation by installing watertight or ventilated cap on top of well casing depending on state well code.
  16. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    Thats got to be it! I think thats how this will have to loosen up. I'm glad I didn't just try to pry it out!

    Now let me ask this: is this a good sign - as the pump may not be that far down? Or is it still possible that it is over 100' down there? Would any of you hang a pump by that adapter and just leave the pull pipe to hold the weight? There is no safety cable on it...
  17. WellWaterProducts

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    It could be several hundred feet down. Safety cables and ropes are overrated.
  18. cacher_chick

    cacher_chick Test, Don't Guess!

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    Don't take anything for granted- there might be several hundred pounds of pipe filled with water connected to the bottom of that pitless adapter.
  19. mortal798

    mortal798 New Member

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    Lol! Overrated... really??? Would somebody really risk the pump dropping to the bottom over $13 worth of poly rope?

    Just got back from Lowes with my parts to make the tool to unlock the pitless.

    Wish me luck, tomorrow could be a long day. I will post pics and updates.

    Thanks again for the advice!
  20. cacher_chick

    cacher_chick Test, Don't Guess!

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    No, people who are serious about safety cable use stainless steel cable.
    Rope is never to be trusted after it has spent time inside a well.
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