Angie's List, When an A grade is not enough

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  1. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    Here is an email I got from Angie's List

    I have an "A" Rating with Angie's List, and according to them, nobody can find me on their list.
    They are asking me to pay them money to be "seen" by their customers.
    Did you know that there are "A" companies in Angie's List that you will never find?
    I guess I'm learning that too.
    I don't really pay much attention to Angie's List,
    I do have plenty of repeat customers that love our work.


    When an A grade is not enough.
    ZERO members found your company
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    I've gotten the Super Service Award two years in a row, but you would never know that looking on Angie's

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    I guess they are just like the phone books.
    Big money buys big ads.
    It's not about the consumer, it's about getting money from the contractors.
    So all you consumers "paying" to find the best businesses, you're just paying to see those businesses that can afford to pay the most in advertising.
    Meet the best plumber that you will never see on Angies.
    Yeah, even though Angies reviewers think that we are in the top 5%


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  2. Terry , they are skum and pricks

    Terry.... I totally despise them


    This is called a an old fashioned .......SHAKE DOWN....

    if you wont pay them for advertiesing
    they they wont let anyone know you are on
    their shitty exclusive little list....
    even though you are on it...



    then if you pay them about $500 per month,,
    they will promote your name on their web site
    and sing your praises to the top of Mount Raineer


    also.... they will look the other way when you rape ,
    pillage, and plunder little old ladies
    If you charge someone 1800 for a TOTO toilet
    that is ok with them.... because you greased their slimey palms..



    their is one company in our town that charges
    1500 for a 40 gallon gas water heater and then
    gives the customer a $100 dollar off Angies list discount.
    .:eek: .....what a deal...what great guys they are
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  3. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    Screw Angie and her list ;)
  4. Doherty Plumbing

    Doherty Plumbing Journeyman & Gas Fitter

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    Who the hell is angie? And if I was gonna shell out that big of $$$ to advertise it would be in the phone book where 90% of people find a plumber anyway.
  5. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Angie

    They probably COULD find you if they wanted to scroll down to the bottom of the list, past Jose's Plumeria who did pay extra to be moved to the top/front of the line.
  6. Inspektor Ludwig

    Inspektor Ludwig Journeyman/Inspector

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    I tried the Angie's list thing. I didn't do it because they wanted cash. They sent me an email asking why I chose not join and I said "Well, I don't recall Craig ever charging me to look at his list." I never got a response.
  7. Cass

    Cass Plumber

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    Just another company trying to get a as many $$$ out of who ever they think they can persuade to let go of their cash...

    Their tactics are creative as well as some what deceptive...there is no way to know what an A rating realy means...or to guard against its abuse by home owners...
  8. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    I think you get an "A" rating until the first customer who thinks you charged too much writes a negative review.
  9. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

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    I have quite a few reviews, and it's still an A rating after three years.
    I got two negative reviews from people that we didn't work for.
    They still wanted to write reviews, even though we didn't do the work.

    But the ones that we "did" work for, gave us very high reviews.

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  10. redwoodvotesoften1

    redwoodvotesoften1 New Member

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    I dunno bout dem folks down at Angie's List whether they just be dumbazz's or if dey be wishin fer me an my ol scatter gun "The Widowmaker" pay dem a visit.

    They sent me a e-mail jes like the one you got only they sent this.

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    Looks like they really don't git how we operate in the moonshine bizness.
    My bizness don't advertize in no stinking yeller pages, an it don't have no stinkin website.
    All my bizness is word of mouth n new customers better come with an introduction or me an "The Widowmaker" needs to take acksun.

    Last thing I want is a bunch o strangers snoopin around.
    They might jes be revenuers...

    I swear if I new where their hideout wuz they'd be splainin some things ta me an "The Widowmaker"
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  11. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    Dang. That is another thing I do not understand about America.

    HOOCH!

    Does it still exist?

    Why is it illegal?

    What is it like?

    Where could someone get it?

    I've got a feeling Western Virginia is calling...

    North Carolina is just too city.
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  12. redwoodvotesoften1

    redwoodvotesoften1 New Member

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    It's the good stuff an we don't need no Angie's List!
  13. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    Hillbilly Man Long time no hear from buddy. How's things going at the still? Them damn revenuers on yer tail agin?
  14. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    Please don't tell me the Police track you down for selling or making a bit of "home brew". That's not freedom, that's crazy.

    Can hooch be made legally for one's own consumption i.e. not for sale?

    Same goes for beer and wine?

    And what valves are best on a still?

    I see Punkin Chunkin air guns only use Apollo ones and not the cheapo Chinese valves.

    Does Hooch and Punkin Chunkin go together? And in what order? Hooch and then Punkin Chunkin?

    I need to find me a man with a still.
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  15. hj

    hj Moderator & Master Plumber Staff Member

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    Ian

    When you find the man with the still, check his solder joints to be sure they are not made with 50/50 solder.
  16. export!

    export! DIY Member

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    I've never seen a thread go so far off topic. Not that I mind in the least. If off topic posts were a crime they would have to reopen Alcatraz just for me.

    I always liked this design. High tech enough to satisfy the frustrated engineer in me.

    http://www.moonshine-still.com/
  17. Runs with bison

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    Ahhh...there is some history to this, as in the Revolutionary War, and the Whiskey Rebellion shortly thereafter. Whiskey (hooch) was used as currency by those on frontier. They couldn't economically ship their grain back East, but whiskey could be shipped without losing so much to transportation costs.

    Following our revolution we had debts to pay, so Congress levied a tax on whiskey. This produced a rebellion of sorts among rural folk (mainly civil disobedience, disrupting tax collection, interrupting the mail.) George Washington exerted Federal authority to put down the rebellion, calling up the militia to arrest the leaders. There were not "battles", a few folks were rounded up. Two were sentenced to death but Washington pardoned them. And that was that, Federal tax authority was established.

    In the early 1900's there was a strong temperance movement in the Midwest with state prohibition and finally Federal prohibition. It was one of the great travesties of the time and little good came of it. (See the rise of organized crime.) It also turned farmers into "criminals." At least two of my great grandfathers subverted prohibition for their own use and were arrested separately for making beer and whiskey. For one the neighbor's cattle somehow gained access to the mash and ended up drunk...in that case it was a great great uncle's mash, but on the great grandfather's property.

    In 1978/1979 Federal prohibition on home brewing was lifted. Several states still prohibit homebrewing including Kentucky, Mississippi, and Alabama although few are enforcing it.

    Hooch on the other hand is a bit different, especially when it comes to making grain alcohol. Distilling is treated differently than just brewing beer. I don't know the limitations on this. Back when I was making alcohol it was at the rate of about 20+ million gallons a year (200 proof anhydrous and 190 proof USP.) ;) ...all legal and denatured.
  18. Cookie

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    For the past 2 year I only hire from Angie's List and never have a problem anymore. I also give them the good reviews they deserve. I did a roofer, a carpenter and a plasterer. I never use the phone book. Nor does my neighbor's & friends. Either Angie's List or word of mouth recommendations.

    Actually more like 3 years.
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  19. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    This topic has gone off-topic but moonshine and hooch are possibly the most important things to learn about on this entire forum at this time.

    In fact, a dedicated hooch and moonshine section might seem warranted.

    Stills and Punkin Chunkin air guns rely on a particularly sound knowledge of plumbing.

    I'll never look at my water heater the same way again. Surely, that can be modified into a whiskey-maker or a pumpkin thrower?

    Thank you Runs with Bison for the useful history.

    And HJ, what's wrong with 50/50 solder and why isn't food grade solder used on potable water plumbing instead if it's such a big deal?

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  20. nhmaster

    nhmaster Master Plumber

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    Ian, the best thing about being an American is that even with a failing economy, a couple of wars, a healthcare crisis and the poo generally hitting the fan, we can still find time for the more important things in life like American Idol and chucking pumpkins. You know damn well that there ain't nobody chucking no pumpkins in Rooooshia.

    Oh yes, the 50/50 thing. Gotta get the lead out and we ain't talking Zepplin here.
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