American Standard toilet with large trapway ???

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by Lakee911, Feb 25, 2008.

  1. Lakee911

    Lakee911 I&C Engineer (mostly WWTP)

    Messages:
    1,328
    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    I was at a resturant the other day and I noticed they had a standard toilet in the restroom that flushed really well. It was manufactured by American Standard and it had an 85 stamped inside the tank and a HUGE flush valve (is that what it's called, the flap thing to release water?). It must have been 4-6" diameter. Anyone know what toilet it could be?

    Thx
    Jason
  2. plumbtired

    plumbtired New Member

    Messages:
    34
    Location:
    Portland, OR metro
    American Standard identification?

    It may be a Champion with the new-and-improved flush valve. The "85" stamped inside the tank doesn't go with what I know about American Standard Champion toilets' model numbers, though. Their models usually are four digits long, starting with "4." You might try phoning American Standard @800-442-1902 and ask the customer service rep just what this model toilet might be. :confused:

    Good luck!
  3. Lakee911

    Lakee911 I&C Engineer (mostly WWTP)

    Messages:
    1,328
    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Thanks. I'll see what I can find out. I actually forget where I saw it too. I was traveling too.... Dang. I don't think it was a champion. It was the flapper style, not a cylinder style.
    Last edited: Feb 27, 2008
  4. plumbtired

    plumbtired New Member

    Messages:
    34
    Location:
    Portland, OR metro
    Champion's new-and-improved flapper-style flush valve

    As the subject title indicates, American Standard has recognized its problems with the Champion (cylinder) piston-style flush valve enough that they replace that piston-style flush valve assembly with a free, new-and-improved flapper-style assembly WHEN the consumer phones their customer service department. It is possible that the toilet you saw had been updated with the new-and-improved flapper-style flush valve.

    I am not sure that the newer Champion toilets are equipped with that new flapper-style flush valve, however, but I would hope so. ...Does anyone out there in the forum know about this??
  5. maddog

    maddog Engineer

    Messages:
    129
    Location:
    near San Jose, CA.
    Yes - the Champion 4 has the 'new' flush valve that is being sent out to fix the problems with the original Champion flush tower ....
  6. Lakee911

    Lakee911 I&C Engineer (mostly WWTP)

    Messages:
    1,328
    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    Hmmm ... maybe this will be my next tore-let (toilet). :D How does that new valve hold up?

    Jason
  7. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

    Messages:
    14,891
    Location:
    Bothell, Washington
    Your next one?
    A glutton for punishment I guess.

    If I had to do this for a living, I would never install a Champion tiolet.
    Oh wait, I do this for a living.
    Thank God, most of my work is based on installing better tiolets.
    85% of my sales are Toto.
    I sell just a little bit of Gerber, Kohler, Amerian Standard and Caroma.
  8. Lakee911

    Lakee911 I&C Engineer (mostly WWTP)

    Messages:
    1,328
    Location:
    Columbus, OH
    I know... I like the Totos ... but if you see my thread over in plumbing about the sewer repair you'd know that I can no longer afford a Toto!


    Maybe Terry will ship me a complementary model as a generous gift. :D
  9. Terry

    Terry Administrator Staff Member

    Messages:
    14,891
    Location:
    Bothell, Washington
    Speaking of TOTO,
    I don't think they are that much to begin with.
    The fact that they work well, have excellent quality control, easy to find parts, and are leaders in the industry, all this means less work in the future for plumbers and homeowners.
    Since time is money, the savings just keep coming.

    Good luck with your project.
    It does look like you are sinking a lot of money into a deep pit.

    http://www.americanstandardclassaction.com/
Similar Threads: American Standard
Forum Title Date
Toilet Forum discussions American Standard Champion 4 is poorly engineered and deceiving on specs Jul 30, 2014
Toilet Forum discussions Crane Tank to American Standard bowl? Jul 16, 2014
Toilet Forum discussions leaking disc from american standard 4049 tank May 2, 2014
Toilet Forum discussions Help with older American Standard Toilet - where to attach refill tube on overflow? Apr 15, 2014
Toilet Forum discussions American Standard toilet, 2004 Concord, Pictures and parts Mar 21, 2014

Share This Page