Advice On Correct Wax Ring ?

Discussion in 'Toilet Forum discussions' started by soca, Jul 4, 2011.

  1. soca

    soca New Member

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    This is a follow-up post to my previous post entitled " Unusual Alternating Toilet Flushing Pattern ".
    I pulled the toilet. HJ was correct. The wax ring ( with no boot ) was matted with Palm tree roots. A big root surfaced on each side of the flange where the floor bolts are mounted. One of these roots entered the sewer pipe. I pulled a 3 foot long bundle of Palm tree roots out of the sewer pipe. The flange is in good shape and sits flat on the cement slab. The opening is 3 1/2 inch diameter. I don't see any bolts attaching the flange to the cement. Does this indicate that the plumber probably just glued the flange to the sewer pipe ? The linoleum sits slightly above the level of the cement. It's also aged and curled on the edges and the plumber packed the area with alot of caulk. There are 3 washers stuck to the cement where the front of the toilet sits on the cement. I assume that these are shimms ? Please help me select the correct replacement wax ring. In my area I am pretty much limited to buying it at ACE or Home Depot. Thanks much for any help on the wax ring or any other reinstall advise that you have.
     
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  2. jimbo

    jimbo Plumber

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    You will find 4 or 5 slightly different wax rings in the store. Ask 20 plumbers and you will get 25 recommendations about which is "the only one to use".

    Don't lose sleep over it.
     
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  4. soca

    soca New Member

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    I mentioned that the diameter of the flange opening is 3 1/2 inches. I noticed that the metal flange has a plastic or rubber insert in it. Without that insert the opening looks like 4 inches. It looks like that insert can be pulled out. What is this insert for ? Was it part of the wax ring ? It didn't appear to be attached to the wax ring. Can someone please explain what this insert is ?
     
  5. johnjh2o1

    johnjh2o1 Plumbing Contractor for 49 years

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    That was part of the old wax ring. They come with and with out the insert. Stay away from the one with the insert. It can cause a obstruction that can result in a stoppage.

    John
     
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