Advice needed for preparing for a hurricane

Discussion in 'Ian's Corner' started by Ian Gills, Aug 23, 2011.

  1. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    Cookie, I've been in this house since 1971. Back then the taxes were 900 bucks and went up quickly to 1100. Over the years, they just kept climbing, like all of Long Island taxes did. I've been through many grievances, got several reductions, been through small claims court to get some of them. It's just a fact of ife here. What does suck though is guys like Ian suggestiong I pay higher taxes to help the poor. the guy must be delusional.
    I only have a one story ranch 3 BR, 2-1/2 baths on 1/3rd acre in a working class neighborhood, no castle or Taj Mahal here. Most of my friends living on Long Island pay the same as I do or more. One pays $15K for a colonial on 1/2 acre. Our taxes ARE based on property values that are very wierd too, because the last tax bill shows my assessesd value is about 39K, although the average selling price here is closer to 300K. Used to be closer to 500K several years ago, but you know how that went.
  2. BobL43

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    Lots of heavy rain here and strong winds, but the eye won't be here for a few more hours at 10 am. Several tornado watches have been posted in area. Over 250,000 have lost power here in burbs, so lots of BBQ's will be busy when its all over. YeeHa!

    Anyway, at the moment, its a strong Tropical Storm here just under category 1 hurricane, which is much better than was predicted. Tons of rain. West Nile Mosquitos have been a big concern here this summer. SWATT!
  3. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    The more you pay in property tax Bob, the less you pay elsewhere.

    You know the way this country works. Income tax is low, but they get you on the property taxes. All in all you probably pay the same in taxes here as other "more socialist" countries, but don't get the services. In England, you'd pay the same but get national health care, for example.

    Well, in the fight of the hurricane versus my Zoeller, the Zoeller won.

    We didn't need to go to Stage 3. Today, I'll be cleaning the backyard. There's lots of American growth that has fallen from trees on it.

    Yuck!
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  4. BobL43

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    So being that I pay so much in property taxes, all else should be free.

    A guy went with a truck to a potato farm to buy some potatos. He asked the farmer how much they cost. Farmer said "the more you buy, they cheaper they get". guy says to keep filling his truck til they are free:p
  5. BobL43

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    Ian, all of NYC Manhattan's power lines are underground. The NY Harbor is starting now to breach the seawall and flowing into the streets at the Battery. Con Ed is announcing they probably are going to shut down power in lower Manhattan, so burying all the power is not the answer at all. Many transformers are underground to provide power to the buildings in the city. Some buildings have their own transformers, but water and electricity do not mix well.
  6. BobL43

    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    LL,


    Taxes are probably lower than yours in Montana, but I don't think that's where I want to live.

    No Palace, as I wrote in response to one of Cookies posts. but the cost of living in the NY Metro area is extreme. I don't know how the payscales compare to the rest of the US or Canada, though. Everything is normally relative. I never felt that I was overpaid, who does?;)
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    BobL43 DIY Senior Member

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    Cookie good luck in your son's travels.
  8. wmills

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    I know its later now lol, but unless he went down the coast he had no problems I am sure. Even my son on the coast weathered the storm with only minor damage to a fence. The power was shut down to prevent fires and other damage. In the central plains area where I am there was only some strong winds. Anyway hope all is well for everyone.
  9. Cookie

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    He got in a couple of hours ago, now is sleeping. That is a relief. The only thing I worry about honestly are the kids. Everything else falls by the wayside. I should never have a heart attack which would kill me. lol. My other son, the older son, brought back my jeep while the younger son took my other car. I need something for work, lol. As long as it has a roof ( incase of a hurricane) and tires that is all I need. I gave them both the cars, so I got to buy something at some point. I am thinking a mini-cooper, I love those cars they remind me of Mr. Bean. I would laugh everytime I got in it. Now, my older son brought over my grandson. Oh, boy he is a cutie, and is now holding onto things and walking. So, the candles off the coffee table had to go, the tv remote was an interesting item and Thomas, the young cat he loved. Ask Thomas how he feels, lol. OF course, since the neighbor's have been asking about my grandson, I made my older son walk over to them and we showed him off. My aged neighbor, whome I love more than I can say, started crying when he saw him. I love that man. It is ashame people got to get old but, then, dying young really sucks, eh. My older son wanted the drawings his dad did, he was actually, an architect by trade but, did nothing but electrical; and, as fate would have it, I couldn't find a one. I don't know where I put them. He did a wonderful drawing of an A-frame, he wanted to frame. I did find some aerial pictures of Sydney & Halifax, Nova Scotia where he worked and so he took those and going to frame them. They are wonderful. I will have to find the other drawings for him.. What I did find which was funny, was the old MRI's of my brain, lol. It showed an old brain lesion which turned out to be I found out a vascular malformation just recently. I asked him, if he wanted those, lol. I have no idea why he doesn't want to frame them. That is all I got to offer. ;) So, it is Sunday, and on this Sunday, once again, I feel so proud of both of my sons, I could gloat. :) I look at my older son's family, he has 3 sons, 2 he adopted, and, I just can't stop smiling. I am without a doubt the luckiest woman in the world.

    I hope all is well for those with that storm. I looked outside to see if anything good had blown my way, ratz, nothing.

    I love storms and stinkbugs.
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  10. Cookie

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    It would be interesting to know how the prop taxes are done there, if separate always on land and structure, or both? How the laws play to it? And, lastly, if it is related to earnings? A comparision would be neat.

    I know Ian sometimes doesn't understand how complicated the tax laws are and what is involved, it just isn't that simple. Especially, real estate law.
  11. ballvalve

    ballvalve General Engineering Contractor

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    Hope Ian got his marine batteries at wally-mart so he can return them, or get a few boats and chargers to maintain them.

    I always add a second battery to my vehicles if I can find a place for one.
  12. Ian Gills

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    It's cheaper to buy a boat than a marine battery.

    But I'll keep it for a "rainy day".

    I'll connect my batteries in parallel. Should be fun.
  13. ballvalve

    ballvalve General Engineering Contractor

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    Keep them on a charger or they will die soon.
  14. BobL43

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    Well, it is now 5 days after Irene, and there are STILL 78,000 homes on Long Island without power! I never lost mine, so I am very lucky.
    Public service govt owned utility. My taxes at work. They had to import electrical service crews from around the country to do the repair work. somebody gave an estimate of 14 BILLION dollars to put the wires underground, so that will never happen. That would not fix/prevent it all either.
    http://www.newsday.com/news/breaking/lipa-still-on-track-to-restore-most-outages-friday-1.3140160
  15. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    It would fix it Bob but Americans are too cheap to do it.

    We need to face facts. Countries that have buried their power lines have made outages a thing of the past.

    England has had hurricanes like we have just had (rarely) and we don't lose power. I can't remember a power cut there for thirty years.

    America is like Africa. The wind blows. The power goes.

    And you can't stand to put your hand in your pocket to fix it.

    That's cheap.
  16. BobL43

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    Well to be honest with you, what DOES bother me with the overhead wiring is how ugly it is. A storm such as we had last weekend is not very often up here. Last big problem was in 1985 with Gloria. But personally, I WOULD be willing to pay some bucks to clear up the ugly mess. Between primary power, secondary power, cable TV, copper POTS telephone wires, Fiber optic cables, it is one big ugly mess. And then the kids thow pairs of sneakers tied together over the wires to decorate them.
  17. Cookie

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    I saw a pair of those sneakers once fall on the roof of the car in front of me, while sitting at a redlight. I could see him looking in the rear view mirror, the side mirrors, and then, trying to see the roof hanging out his window. It was one of the funnniest things to see. I guess he heard a "thump." I tried to tell him before the light changed but, he sped away too fast, with the shoes on the roof.

    I'm waiting on a size 7, black stiletto's, I always look up...

    ... in my city, you could go shoe shopping off of the wires.

    ... when it is windy, go for a drive, you will come home with over a dozen pair.

    Ian, it helps keep the cost down come school season. You say to your kids, " come on kids, we're going shoe shopping!"

    You just can't do that if you bury the wires. Imagine, what you are proposing, think about all those barefoot people in the winter time in all that snow. They won't have any shoes.
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  18. Ian Gills

    Ian Gills Senior Robin Hood Guy

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    Well, if we're being honest and having a heart-to-heart, I'll also drop what really bothers me about overhead cables in the United States of America.

    Kites.

    In England, you see the kids flying 'em everywhere. But I have yet to see anyone fly a kite in America, or even one being sold in a shop.

    But then you can't fly kites when you have high voltage above your head. Can you?
  19. BobL43

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    Ben Franklin did it, and look what he discovered!:p

    There are plenty of places all over the US to fly kites if you really want to. Maybe not in DC; what about London?
  20. dlarrivee

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    You really are ignorant aren't you?
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