14/3 strange usage

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  1. DonL

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    Earth is a good Ground if the voltage is high enough, and that proves it.

    The Power Utility company is the only one allowed to use the earth as ground/neutral, as far as I know.
     
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    Oh and Samuel Morse did too, right?
     
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    That was before AC was used.

    DC was tried before they figured out AC was better for transmitting.

    Later Morse used RF, so it was AC. Just not 60hz, Subs used that frequency.
     
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    Those Colorado Winters didn't give you that cold heart did it? Just kidding (or am I?). I guess I was lucky, I had a great Mother In-Law. If everybody had a Mother In-law like I had, there'd be no mother in-law jokes. That'd be no fun though
     
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    lol

    That made me smile.
     
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    I've got another "questionable" use for 14/3 that I'd like an opinion on.. I wanted four outlets, each switched by a different switch, in close proximity... Rather than run four 14/2 wires, I ran two 14/3, and split the hot on each of two dupex outlets (broke the bridge on the side of the plug..) and used the red as the hot for one outlet, and the black for the other... All four plugs come back through a 4-gang box with four switches, and then all to the SAME 15 amp breaker.

    I can see that if I was to expect to get 15 amps out of each outlet, I'd obviously pop the breaker, but since these are all on the SAME 15 amp breaker, I think what I've done is safe and to code, since it's not logically any different than a 4-outlet power strip, except that I have switches on each outlet.

    I hope this makes sense... Is there anything dangerous I'm missing here?
    FWIW, the purpose of this was to plug in four arcade/pinball machines, which each probably take no more than 2-3 amps, but I wanted the switches all by the door to the room so I didn't have to fumble around for the individual power switches on the machines.

    -Steve
     
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    You are OK IMHO, if you run 14/2 to the 4 inch box from the breaker to the 4-gang box. If you are talking about running 4 hot wires to the breaker, that sounds like it might violate some rule that I don't know about regarding overfilling the terminal on the breaker. Not a pro.
     
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    I think you did good.
     
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    IF both 120v loads were EXACTLY the same amperage, you would not need the neutral because they would divide the 240v power. I have done a similar thing when I had to temporarily use 240v elements in a 480v water heater.
     
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    They say there is only ONE lawyer joke, the rest are all true. Sometimes MIL jokes could be the same way.
     
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