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Yep, you're right. Feeling very silly now, the keeper was upside down. It even said "this side up"....Like my wife said, it's time for reading classes. Thanks, Terry. Again, great forum.

First, thank you for this forum. It's guided me through all my plumbing challenges while remodeling my kitchen three years ago, and now my bathroom which I'm close to finishing. I've never had to post anything, because every plumbing question I had showed up in some thread somewhere. Until...