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  1. Surfing Plumber

    Mini storage tank for dedicated recirculation loop

    Navien uses the buffer tank as a marketing gimmick... The reason Navien needs a buffer tank because the machines can not bring the temperature up to par as fast as other brands, it will need to constantly recirculate within itself to provide hot water. It is not efficient at all when using with...
  2. Surfing Plumber

    Navien CH-240 is this normal?

    Navien is a low end product, installed many and had to return to job sites many times...Waste of my time and my customers' money...I would not recommend Navien at all... Please look elsewhere, such as Noritz for your tankless needs...
  3. Surfing Plumber

    A happy ending to what seemed like eternity.

    Bosch is known to be crappy. they are such giant company that are just not a specialist in tankless.... If you want Tankless, go with Noritz, they are the most durable and reliable brand out on the market
  4. Surfing Plumber

    Noritz NR98-OD Tankless water heater

    if you are getting hot water in the shower but not in the sink, it is not the tankless. if you are taking a long time to get hot water even if the tankless is only 10' away, it has to do with your plumbing, the plumbing might start 10' apart but it is routed to a farther fixture first then it...
  5. Surfing Plumber

    Navien Tankless Water Heater Comments and questions

    I have installed Naviens before and let me tell you, there are A LOT of problems with these heaters. Which is fine because I know not everything is perfect. But to find the support and parts from Navien is almost impossible. They will give you the run around and takes a lot of convincing to get...
  6. Surfing Plumber

    Navien Tankless Water Heater Comments and questions

    Warning: Stay away from Navien!!! I installed a good amount of Navien in my life time and I gotta say, 80% call backs from my customers. It is frustrating for both the homeowners and I as it takes time away from my other jobs!! There is always something wrong with these Navien, if it's not...
  7. Surfing Plumber

    Newbe supplemental tankless questions...

    Electric tankless is not efficient and you will NOT reach your desired shower temperature. I tried to install an electric tankless one time and the amount of work: subcontract an electrician to upgrade the panel and running 3 220V plugs was ridiculous!! That is like running 3 electric clothes...
  8. Surfing Plumber

    Navien CH240 hot water takes a while to reach fixtures

    I installed a good amount of Navien in my career, all i gotta say is I got call backs on 80% of them. There always something wrong with them, if not the switch sensor, or is the circuit board. The built-in recirculation system doesn't even work well.. it is just a selling gimick..I say to stay...
  9. Surfing Plumber

    NORITZ Tankless Heater--water temp fluctuation

    Larryjay, Noritz is the largest tankless manufacturer in the world. They only use the best components, such as the heat exchanger is k-type copper, which is the thickest and most reliable compared to other brands. I see you are in LA as well. Noritz's US headquarter is in Orange County...
  10. Surfing Plumber

    NORITZ Tankless Heater--water temp fluctuation

    it does take a little longer than normal to get hot water from a tankless. This is the same for ANY brand of tankless water heater. You are heating the water from hot to cold in a matter of seconds and you have to push flush out all the cold water in the line before you get hot water. But once...
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