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ahren111

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Hi, I'm new to wells. We just bought our first house with a well about 1yr ago & my pressure tank is out. The house was a bank owned so I don't have much info about the well a local well co did an inspection & told me it's producing 3gpm. I was planning on going with a well-x-trol 202xl, a new SS tee package and a CSV1. Anyone have any thoughts on my part choices? Any other suggestions to a first time well owner? Here's the parts I was going to order. https://www.aquascience.net/cart/
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Please correct me if I'm wrong, but with a small 1 gallon tank like with Pside kick kit the pump would come on more often, say every time I flush the toilet. With a bigger say 7 gallon draw draw down pressure tank it would only come on after I use the 7 gallons is that correct? Why would you want such a small tank & the pump coming on after such little use?
 

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I agree. A toilet flush would start the pump.

One thing the kit gets you is the CSV1A valve, which is the higher end one.
 

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The local health dept would be a good place to get your well info.

I think I read someplace that Amtrol will not warranty the tank for seven years unless it and the shipping pallet are unloaded with a forklift. You might want to clarify that before you order.....

Why use a 202? If you have the space go with a tank that has some real drawdown like a 251, 255 or best yet, a 350
 

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Without a CSV you can’t put in a large enough tank to stop the cycling. A 202 only holds 5 gallons of water, a 251 only about 12, and even a 350 only holds 35 gallons. With a house that uses 500 gallons per day or more, that is a lot of cycling just to refill a big tank. And have you seen how much those big tanks cost?

With a CSV any tank larger than a 4.5 gallons size (1 gallon of water) is a waste of money, space, and heat. It doesn’t matter if the pump comes on every time you flush a toilet. How many times a day can a toilet be flushed anyway? What is important is that the pump stays running the entire time you are taking a shower, using a sprinkler, or any time water is used for extended periods, which is what a CSV makes it do. This takes out hundreds of cycles per day, so adding back in a few cycles for single toilet flushes doesn’t add up to enough cycling to need a larger tank.

Also with a CSV, when water is being used anywhere in or out of the house just before, right after, or during the same time a toilet is flushed, the pump does not see an extra cycle for the toilet. Even when a toilet is flushed multiple times in a row, you would have to wait 3 minutes between flushes to cause an extra cycle. Flush a toilet every 2 minutes and the CSV will just make the pump stay running continuously until you are finished flushing, even if you flush 100 times or more.

Of course you can use a CSV with as large a tank as you want. But after you see how the CSV works you will kick yourself for wasting all that money on a larger tank. As long as you are using more than 1 GPM, the CSV makes water go right past the tank, straight to the faucet(s) being used. It doesn’t matter if it is a 1 gallon or a million gallon tank.

With a CSV an 80 gallon size bladder tank is large enough for an entire city with 50,000 people, so you certainly don’t need one that large for a single house. In the past all you could do was install as large a tank as you could afford or had space for. With the CSV having proved itself for over 22 years now, that hasn’t been the case in a long time.

Big tank systems are outdated. You just as well use a horse and buggy instead of a car, or an old typewriter instead of a computer as to use a big tank instead of a CSV. Using a big tank WITH a CSV is like having a car pull the buggy you are still riding in.

The Pside-Kick kit with the CSV1A and the 4.5 gallon size tank will cycle the pump less and deliver stronger constant pressure than a room full of big expensive tanks, and is only a fraction of what a big tank cost.
 

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Big tank systems are outdated. You just as well use a horse and buggy instead of a car, or an old typewriter instead of a computer as to use a big tank instead of a CSV. Using a big tank WITH a CSV is like having a car pull the buggy you are still riding in.


I've got a big 80 Gallon tank (thats what was set when the well was drilled) and I personally like it with my CSV that I installed a month ago. The only reason I see to not go with a smaller tank is because I like that I have a couple minutes after shutting off the hose before my pump kicks off thus allowing me to turn the hose back on and saving a cycle (Im weird I know :))

Else VM is right and I can how a big tank is not needed.
 

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Using a CSV you can get the same "couple of minutes" of run time with a tank that only holds 2 gallons of water. Just set the CSV at the same as the pressure switch start pressure, and it will take 2 minutes to put 2 gallons in the tank.
 
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