Threaded shower valve joint slow leak

Users who are viewing this thread

pacificpilot

New Member
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Snohomish, WA
I have installed a Moen shower control with copper threaded fittings and now (~ 3 weeks later) I am seeing a very small leak (one drop per day or so). Fortunately, I have not yet installed the tile on the wall, however, the Wedi board has been installed. I am wondering what is the best way to fix this issue. I used only Oatey pipe dope (Great white w/PTFE) when I assembled the fittings, using a pipe wrench to insure tightness. Apparently, it is not tight enough, or the pipe dope that I used was not good enough.

So, I am thinking about cutting out the Wedi board in the area of the shower valve so that I can repair the leak. I have two thoughts...

1.) Cut the copper pipes (3) from the controller, remove the controller, unscrew the three existing threaded joints and reassemble using teflon tape. I guess that I could just cut the one pipe that is leaking and just unscrew the one connection, replacing it with telflon tape. However, I'm not sure if I trust that the other joints will not start leaking in the future.

-or-

2.) Buy a new controller that I can sweat copper pipes to.

Thanks in advance for your ideas, thoughts or other recommendations. I guess the mistake that I made was to install a threaded fitting in the first place. I'm not sure why Lowe's sells those in lieu of the ones designed for sweating copper pipes.

Here's a picture of the valve before I closed the wall... Drip is on the left fitting.

shower.jpg

-Rich
 
Last edited:

Terry

The Plumbing Wizard
Staff member
Messages
29,946
Reaction score
3,460
Points
113
Location
Bothell, Washington
Website
terrylove.com
I would fix only the one that is leaking.

The threaded joints done right will be a forever joint. Normally I just use pipe dope on those and tighten them up.
Don't beat yourself up over this. You may even be able to cut the pipe, snug up the male adapter and then solder on a coupling.
 

Jadnashua

Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx
Messages
32,771
Reaction score
1,191
Points
113
Location
New England
The quality of the threads on some fittings sold today is terrible, and you may need a healthier dose of pipe dope than you think. Some people use the belt and suspenders approach and use both the pipe dope AND the tape, doesn't hurt.

Are the fittings male or female? If female, are you sure that it isn't a dual-mode valve housing where the inside of the valve housing can act as a female fitting for the pipe to be soldered in directly? Many are...
 

pacificpilot

New Member
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Snohomish, WA
Thanks for the quick reply Terry. Good to hear that there may be a relatively simple fix to this. Perhaps I will just cut the pipe and torque the male adapter a bit more, as you have suggested. There is space to solder on a coupling as it's on the left side of the valve (see pic I added).

-Rich
 

pacificpilot

New Member
Messages
3
Reaction score
0
Points
0
Location
Snohomish, WA
The quality of the threads on some fittings sold today is terrible, and you may need a healthier dose of pipe dope than you think. Some people use the belt and suspenders approach and use both the pipe dope AND the tape, doesn't hurt.

Are the fittings male or female? If female, are you sure that it isn't a dual-mode valve housing where the inside of the valve housing can act as a female fitting for the pipe to be soldered in directly? Many are...

Hi Jim, I don't this so.... but I have added a pic if it helps. Thanks for the quick reply.

-Rich
 

Jadnashua

Retired Defense Industry Engineer xxx
Messages
32,771
Reaction score
1,191
Points
113
Location
New England
That valve body doesn't support the dual-use many provide. If it did, it would have a male threaded section on the valve, and the interior of that male fitting would act like a coupling where you could alternately solder in the pipe directly.

When it has a threaded, female socket, you can only thread in an adapter.
 
Top
Hey, wait a minute.

This is awkward, but...

It looks like you're using an ad blocker. We get it, but (1) terrylove.com can't live without ads, and (2) ad blockers can cause issues with videos and comments. If you'd like to support the site, please allow ads.

If any particular ad is your REASON for blocking ads, please let us know. We might be able to do something about it. Thanks.
I've Disabled AdBlock    No Thanks