TonyKarns
In the Trades
good point
Good point Frenchie!
Good point Frenchie!
Not only is it bad, dangerous, illegal advice - but it sounds like the OP is going to take that advice?
Speaking as a remodeller... when I see a cut end, I assume "dead wire".
You cannot leave connected live wires loose behind a wall! END OF CONVERSATION
Safe in one persons mind is dangerous in other persons mind.Explain how it is bad/dangerous. We are NOT talking about splices/junctions here, we are talking about a dead end. If you equal the insulation of the sheathing it is as safe as the rest of the run.
If I saw a piece of Non Metallic Cable anywhere that was taped on the end I would try to find out who made the installation and report them to the proper authorities.You are TRYING to tell me that if you saw a piece of romex in a wall/ceiling/attic with tape insulating the dead end, you would "assume it's hot"?
Get real here. Cables that are installed with a nonmetallic sheathing is not necessarily Romex. The might be any one of a number of nonmetallic cable manufactures.There are connected live wires running throughout the house. They are covered with sheathing, it's called romex. Are you telling me that I can't insulate the end of a wire as well as the sheathing?
This is a mind set or would it be better to say opinion.If done properly, taping the end of a cut nm is safe, no matter what the code says.
All you have to do is look at hereI am always open minded though so if someone give me a good reason why it's unsafe, I'm all ears.
Well my friend if you are doing work in a jurisdiction that has adopted the NEC or the IRC then the code is the LAW not something that you can choose to use or not.I don't use the NEC as a bible, I use it as a reference. I feel that I am capable of deciding what is safe/unsafe. There are a few things that I flat out ignore (taping off dead end unused wiring) and there are other things that, even though ALLOWED by code, I would NEVER do (ie: exposed cable/SE).
Again all you have to do is look at hereAgain, give me a good reason to change my ways. I'm alll ears.
Cables that are installed with a nonmetallic sheathing is not necessarily Romex. The might be any one of a number of nonmetallic cable manufactures
If I saw a piece of Non Metallic Cable anywhere that was taped on the end I would try to find out who made the installation and report them to the proper authorities.
if it is a violation of the NEC it can’t be safe.
Well if someone on the job ask me for some Romex I always take the time to give them a little education in Article 334 of the National Electrical Code.No sh.t Einstein. I can just picture you on a job saying that when someone asks for some romex.
Issues or not anyone that would tape the end of an energized wire and leave in hanging free needs to be fined to the max.Then you have some serious issues.
So now you are saying that your opinion out weighs the opinion of those who make the proposals and those who write the codes which are a minimum safety standard.Sorry but that is just not true.
yes and also a code violationIs pvc buried at 17.75 inches unsafe?
Nor is it a code violationIs screwing inside a plastic box to a stud unsafe?
Nor is it a code violationIs stapling romex...yeah that's right, I called it romex..12" from a box unsafe?
NeverHow many times have you violated code but in your opinion it was safe?
Never?......Riiiiight
I don’t think that the Bible has anything to do with an electrical installation. If you were referring to the NEC then if it is adopted in your area then I suppose that the law would not be good enough for you eitherWhat I was asking for is a reasonable explanation of WHY it is unsafe. Because the bible says so aint good enough for me.
Well if someone on the job ask me for some Romex I always take the time to give them a little education in Article 334 of the National Electrical Code.
Issues or not anyone that would tape the end of an energized wire and leave in hanging free needs to be fined to the max.
So now you are saying that your opinion out weighs the opinion of those who make the proposals and those who write the codes which are a minimum safety standard.
I'm no rocket surgeon but in some cases, yes.
You are already smarter than the rest of the world so you just keep hacking away until caught.
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With the utter most of respect I think that you should not be giving your opinion to people that do not have knowledge of the codes instead of giving the code requirements and standing back asking for someone to explain why your idea is not as safe as what that is required by the code
This is awkward, but...
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